Goku vs Vegeta during the Saiyan Arc. It's shown and stated multiple times Kid Buu>Gotenks and Gohan. Didn't you see him throwing him around and having fun, beating him up for the hell of it? SS3 Gotenks was stronger than Super Buu and so is Kid Buu. Then we have Merus solidify this by saying you wouldn'tlose to anyone once properly trained. Take a second to look at our. kid buu was not taking the fight seriously ". I concede their but beerus hitting bulma was clearly him suppressing his power and Kid buu got outclassed by goku at so many points in the fight , i doubt there was any " suppression " , you dont suppress youself when fighting equals . You're just grasping at straws now this is sad. He looked pretty worried surrounded by buu clones TBH and He was beaten up for a few seconds , he was obviously fighting seriously , he dominated everyone but goku , hint hint - its because Goku in SS3 is as strong as Kid Buu . You are the one who ignored my entire arguement about Goku straight out saying Super buu being far above Him and Vegeta AND proving that Gotenks >>> Goku and that Super Buu is leagues above kid buu . Matching his speed/Strength/Ki Blasts , yaeh that seems to be pretty equal but Buu won because of Durability and Stamina, " all that proves Goku is stronger then vegeta ", SSJ2 Vegeta scales to SSJ2 goku , you used goku saying needing SSJ3 to even stand a chance as a point and i used that fight to tell you the massive gulf between 3 and 2 and how kid buu stomped vegeta but not goku and did npt supppress his power to " play " with vegeta , why ? With goku outright stating that super buu is levels above SSJ3 Goku + SSJ2 Goku and stating Buu = SS3 Goku . Maybe because he never suppressed his power. Nothing to do with strength, so you can forget this entire claim. And about him laughing , that is just his nature , he was laughing all the time even if the opponent is on equal footing , he was laughing when he moved the spirit bomb an inch toward goku. Sheesh. Dude, I'm sorry but I don't care about your Gotenks and SS3 Goku caling whatsoever, this still doesn't prove he's stronger than Kid Buu who is also stronger than SS3 Goku and like Toriyama himself said Goku choosing to fight Kid Buu 1 on 1 was due to the fact he was unmerged and wanted a fair fight, not because of how strong he was whatsoever. Cell's backhand didn't kill Mr. Satan either. Buu was literally thrashing Vegeta around playing with his body. Kid Buu>SS3. MUI never faced against Beerus. If anything Spirit Bomb's power level via Genki is way stronger than the source like I explained to you in the other thread. Wstched the entire fight and he is clearly at full power , even at full power he got blasted to peieces by SSJ3 Goku . 1 Attack Dialogues 1.1 Super Attack 1.2 Meteor Attack 2 Match Dialogues 2.1 Sparking 2.2 Team Dialogues 2.3 Match Reset 2.4 Shenron 3 Miscellaneous Dialogues 3.1 Character Selection 3.2 Intro 3.3 Victory 3.4 Defeat 3.5 Results Screen 4 Navigation An asterisk (*) … I already made a "rank each version of buu from the strongest to weakest" If you wanna share you thoughts go right in. All orders are custom made and most ship worldwide within 24 hours. @gelato_exotic: " nobody was expecting freeza to do it ". Edit 3: this might be the WORST sub I've ever seen for downvoting things just because you don't like it. This was after getting beat by Beerus in the manga. This relies on the assumption that Gotenks is actually stronger than Kid Buu which he isn't. hey dragonball. None of the previous fighters Vegeta and Goku fought even blew up the planet they were standing on , kid buu did it instantly . Your argument only works if Kid Buu is actually equal to SS3 Goku which isn't the case. SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu. Did you forget Goku at the end of fight saying that if he lost right there, Kid Buu would've slaughtered everyone? You think at such stakes Vegeta would go completely out of character to the point even King Kai and Goku laugh about it just to spite the humans? Kid Buu on the other hand was an actively impending threat. And don't forget, this is a calc for base Jiren, not LB. Prove this. Unless you think God Goku and Vegeta are planet level despite having Universal feats for being hurt by Moro's planet energy or that Namek Frieza is Tree level. Who would win between Moro or Jiren? Lol, Goku needed an entire ass minute to charge up Ki at full power to have a chance at possibly taking out Buu. K, Goku still said Kid Buu would've killed everyone. MUI Goku is angel tier(most likely in the lower ranks but still in the tier). All your claim proves is that Fat Buu and Vegeta are weaker than SS3 Goku which is already a given. That's another point too, Goku was at full stamina and could've gone SS3 to stop the Death Ball from destroying the Earth had he been so equal but lolnope he couldn't. Combo Damage Meter Gain "I ain't INTERESTED in a buncha scrubs like you!! Messages: 907 Likes Received: 85 Trophy Points: 154 Joined: Jul 1, 2017 Reputation: Exhausted Jiren from the Final Episode of Super vs Kid Buu. Other than this Buu is pretty much a limitless fighting machine with the ability to manipulate his body and any way he sees fit in order to prevent himself from getting thrown out of the ring. Goku looked bored fighting Angel Moro and told him to try harder. However, there are multiple statements from the Daizenshuu and Goku himself implicating Buu is stronger no matter how much he exerted himself which is the entire point here. It could have been called guardian of Peace Piccolo or some shit like that. Exhausted Jiren vs Kid Buu Discussion in 'Dragon Ball Battledome' started by Jiren the Gohan, Jul 3, 2018. Who Wins. Hilarous to see Jirennetes thinking Jiren is even a little match for Beerus. Jiren does not have regenerative abilities so obviously Buu wins on that part, but if Jiren really wanted to I imagine he could use an attack that could pack enough punch to completely destroy Buu, so yeah … Correction , Kid Buu had fun with Vegeta who was significantly less powerful then Kid Buu and SSJ3, Goku was pretty confident that he could take on Kid Buu even without Vegeta and he did until he ran out of stamina, Vegeta - SSJ3 At full power could destroy him. Yes it's BS because Gohan wouldn't just let him blow up the Earth LMFAOOOO, are you reading what you're saying right now? Goku : even if he is back to normal , he is still way more powerful then us, https://images.app.goo.gl/hgkxbehapsk2WVdx5, Super Buu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SSJ3 Goku + SSJ2 Vegeta, Base Jiren washes Beerus just like he did the clown, Oh so it is you. The same MUI who made beerus loose his shit, @gelato_exotic: super buu bitchslaps that joke of a buu that got equalized by fodder like SSJ3 Goku, Are you the same dude from yesterday on the Isshiki vs. Super Buu thread I derailed and spent like 2 whole pages arguing with why Kid Buu>>Super Buu? There's 3 statements implicating he did LMFAOOO. Goku himself already explained why he didn't get stomped which I've posted above. He never once states himself as anywhere near equal to Kid Buu. So the blast he destroyed Earth with was at full power? Anyone can apply to become a Video Game Mods site Manager. Now I really know you have no idea what you're talking about at all lmao. You're really taking the reactions and gestures of a literal psychotic child like Kid Buu at face value? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Follow Planet level Kid Buu confirmed. Yeah, so much for that. During the Mr vs Kid Buu fight Vegeta notices that Mr Buu is actually getting damaged from Kid's physical hits and surmises that only a Buu can hurt a Buu. They fought on equal footing and Kid Buu stomped Vegeta , why didnt he suppress himself to " Play " with Vegeta ? Him being hurt by goku's attacks multiple times ? Bruh, he was literally playing with Vegeta too, what? They want him to be still relevant and cool so bad. Goku vs Kale, Caulifla and Kefla. 7 NEEDED HELP: Goku Vs Kid Buu. Jiren needed goku to go ssj and frieza to use a massive portion of his power to be beaten. That's just something that easily baits people on this forum for some reason. And hurting Kid Buu at multiple equations unlike Vegeta who was clearly weaker and Kid buu stomped him ? People will say "He didn't use Merus full power!!!" "Full power to even have a chance". He is most clearly capable of power supression. Since Merus is alive I wonder what his reaction to the whole senzu bean situation is gonna be. Goku and Kid Buu were fighting equally till Goku realized that the reason he was able to use SSJ3 perfectly as dead was because neing dead granted him infinite Stamina and Ki , kid Buu seemed to have infinite stamina so Kid Buu won the fight because goku just ran out of stamina as he had never used that form as alive . Because he did not supress himself once in the entire fight , what manga shows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what you want to make out of a vague statement, Gohan nearly stomped a character 8 times more powerful then Kid Buu, Fat Buu and Hercules helped AFTER goku lost his SSJ3 power , Fat Buu also in one scene beat the living shit out of kid buu when fat buu makes 4 clones, " Buu was laughing and making a fool of Goku while not at full power ", Sure , Fouth at 100% power for a long time while Clearly being hurt multiple times . Do you want to run your own modding site? He was going to destroy Grand Kai's Planet. I know this is a discussion forum where fans discuss the series and all, but.... No one cares what you think Derp. You can't just ignore important evidence like this smh. This. Kid Buu > Any other version of Buu(except current Fat buu). Jiren still wins. Vegeta was significantly weaker then Goku was and Buu literally almost killed him and beat him to a pulp while he was not able to beat Goku to a pulp like he beated Vegeta , if he was actually more then eight times stronger then Goku he would have stomped him hard but they fought a tough fight till the end, "Show me evidence of anyone being 8 times stronger then kid buu ", You accepted that Gotenks is significantly stronger then SSJ3 Goku , low balling gotenks , SSJ1 Gotenks = SSJ3 Goku , so gotenks is roughly 8 times more powerful then goku and superbuu scales to gotenks SSJ3 while Kid buu to SSJ3 Goku, He is weaker , like a decent bit weaker but was able to hurt Kid Buu at multiple moments WHILE Fat buu was confirmed weaker then SSJ3 Goku and a decent but weaker then SSJ3 Goku, " what evidence do you have on buu fighting at 100% ". Thats all the proof needed.Welcome to the DB community where the same 3 controversial topics will always resurface. Headcanon after headcanon. Also yes there are more factors. Kid Buu Jiren absorbed. And regardless, Goku still saying himself at the end Kid Buu would've defeated still happened along with Kid Buu>early Spirit Bomb. He was putting on his best Saitama expression. Well, Im not a wanker never wanked buu lol. Kid Buu vs Whis? Goku suggested teleporting Gohan and Gotenks but Vegeta basically said " lets human save themselve for once " , you are basically deleting context, All the afterlife scenes are filler from what i remember AND Ki does not directly mean power, That alone puts Super Buu atleast 7-8 times > Kid Buu, My memory is fresh you need to actually watch DBZ Dearest, you want to believe you destroyed any arguements , that does not mean you actually did though. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Personally I'm not mad at Goku for doing it and think he did the right thing (by his standards). Kid Buu vs Super Buu Jiren vs Broly vs Beerus Krillin vs Tenshinhan Though, if you wanna see what a bloodlusted full power Buu looks like, refer to the scene with Buuhan's Vice Shout. Needless to say, an attack that manages to actually do negative damage could only be straight out of Yamcha's playbook. He's not capable of power supression LOL? I already tackled all these arguments in that thread and I was yet to be debunked. He wasn't asleep like before and what you're saying is pure headcanon. gelato_exotic. but then they forget the nature in 7-3's ability to copy power and just abilities. Kid Buu literally has the personality of a destructive and angry child his reactions prove nothing, especially when they contradict how strong these characters are actually stated to be. By rewatching the fight between SSJ3 Goku and Kid Buu in AMV form , it is clear kid buu was not even closed to being suppressed , he gets punched , he gets ripped to peices , he gets his arm ripped out , they both fly toward each other to punch eather other and ended up punching each other , they did head bashes and at no point was Kid buu laughing except when he was on the top, he even screams in pain when goku hits his stomach with his knee . From there in the manga between Kid Buu, Buutenks, and Buuhan it's really just a toss up. Kid Buu is also no where near Mystic Gohan level. It's not just the human race reee. @gelato_exotic: its bullshit because that would put human race above gohan , the same human race super buu one shotted with his human extinction attack . Jiren 6 vote(s) 75.0% Kid Buu (And Co) 2 vote(s) 25.0% Jiren the Gohan. Beerus's slap only bruised Bulma, same Beerus can bust planets by tapping his nail. Kid Buu straight up went for planet bust , Freiza for example , destroyed Earth when he started losing and nobody was able to stop him and they would be dead if not for Whis Soooooooo Exhausted Freiza >>>>>>> SSB Goku + SSB Vegeta ??? " @gelato_exotic: " assuming kid buu was figting at full power ", " it is stated multiple time kid buu > Gotenks and Gohan ". I don't even see how this is debatable. Beerus doesn't have any feats or statements that'd put him above Jiren. Not once is it ever stated by what margin Buu is stronger than Vegeta, so I don't have to prove anything to you. And this still doesn't prove SS3 Goku is equal to Kid Buu since in none of these fights he was fully exerting himself, something you still haven't proven. Him straight up going for blowing the underworld and not suppressing himself. Burden of Proof is on you now. I could ask the same for you, got any evidence Buu was actually going 100%? Goku himself cowarded in the supreme kai dimension till he was given potara and didn't even consider fighting fighting buu without the earing that means buutenks is far above SSJ3 Goku + Gohan , we know that Mystic Gohan beats buu , so that means Gotenks is significantly more powerful then SSJ3 Goku . And? Inb4 planet bust headcanon BS. https://youtu.be/p-IAjTSy_08 , watch the short version of the fight and tell me how does buu look suppressed to you. SSG Goku vs Beerus (Anime Version) Honorable mention to every goddamn fight in the 23rd Budokai. @gelato_exotic: In the anime definitely. Got anything new, Kid Buu still stomps Super Buu is pure fodder, @gelato_exotic: there is not a single factor saying kid buu > Super buu except the total bullshit retarded meassure of Ki in power bomb BS. Maybe because he never suppressed his power, About the planet part , well he jumped from planet to planet to find some competition from anyone really while about satan part....... its just bad writing tbh , like satan survivng a massive fall in Cell saga, He would have if he had not sensed the ki from goku and vegeta, @tdsx2: kid buu wankers really unable to give any concrete reason for it , classic. It's pretty obvious to me that Goku is already in the angel tier after mastering MUI, after all it's an angelic form, and we even have Merus/ Merus amped Moro to scale MUI to, so now we KNOW that it's an angel tier, it's no longer just speculation. Give me one evidence that Gohan gave all of his Ki for spirit bomb, Gohan one shots Earth/Underworld and Namek with one hand , Gohan is ATLEAST Galactic and until you believe fat buu > Super Buu , it is not deniable, " your arguement would only work if SSJ3 Goku = Kid Buu ". If Super Buu > SSJ3 Goku and the same SSJ3 Goku could at least fight with Kid Buu semi-evenly, then Super Buu >>>> Both. Green is all about the Android Saga. And no, Kid Buu never hopped around looking for competition, he hopped around to any planet he sensed with life trying to find Goku and Vegeta. Evidence that SSJ1 Gotenks > SS3 Goku , when gotenks first achieved SSJ1 Form , piccolo was confident that gotenks could take on fat buu so SSJ1 Gotenks Pre HTC was somewhere between SSJ2 and 3 while post HTC Gotenks got a massive boost , to the point where Piccolo straight up said post HTC Base gotenks > Pre HTC Gotenks so lets lowball Gotenks and say Ssj1 gotenks = SSJ3 Goku , after very heavy lowballing , SSJ1 Gotenks = SSJ3 Goku . " Matching the speed and strength of a suppressed goofing off Buu trying to drag the fight on purpose to have fun as Goku stated, that's cool. Kid Buu never blew up the underworld, lolwhat. and buu blew up the planet immediately , Goku had to teleport to Kaioshin realm to just survive because the planet was gone . " You are the one making claims about Kid Buu > Super Buu , not me . Whis > Beerus > Frieza (DB Super and Revival of F) > SSGSS Vegeta = SSGSS Goku > SSG Goku = SSG Vegeta > Super Vegito > Buuhan > Buutenks > Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > Super Buu > SSJ Gotenks = SSJ3 Goku = Kid Buu (edited by Teengohanrocks) Explore properties. Beerus is above Moro who is way stronger than Jiren. Vegeta’s pride is not enough to sway him either, but fans pretty much knew that. Kid Buu also got scared by a bloodied up Base Vegeta, is Base Vegeta stronger than Kid Buu. This is much worse than I imagined. Jiren pummels, despite me not knowing SHIT about dragon balls, i know that Beerus is locked in three dimensions and Jiren is beyond that trash. 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