Chronic tardiness (in healthy people: those who do not have a disabling mental or physical disorder) is a bad habit that shows a lack of maturity, or a narcissistic streak, or a rebellious streak. They HATE it. Each of us has lived a life so far, full of rich experiences where each person we encounter will have left an impression, big or small. 9 Tips for Overcoming Chronic Lateness. That's not a bad quality, but you would do well to remember that punctuality is important to YOU - automatically assuming that is should be a high priority for others, and that it is (or, at least from the tenor of your post, seems to be) the sole determinant of a person's worth or character, is actually quite narcissistic and self-centered! What I gain from that extra half an hour of meeting or event is never, ever worth the additional stress it would have cost me to try to make myself be on time. My darling with all the challenging situations with kids, you have an excuse and reason I would think most would be lovingly forgiving and happy to see you no matter when you come. * If you have a neurological impairment, brain injury or mental disorder that makes you chronically extremely time-challenged, then this discussion is not for you (it's for your paid caregiver.). It appeared from their post that he/she takes great pride in being punctual (self-admiration) and derives much pleasure from this perceived superiority over others - wouldn't you agree? My sister once missed a flight, so they rescheduled her for the following morning. – Mitch May 29 '12 at 20:42. The solution to this that I proposed in my original post seems, to me at least, to be the least narcissistic of all, which was: to strive to be on time, as punctuality is perceived as important to the majority of people, and is generally a good habit to develop, but also to have empathy for those that are tardy, for their reasons and intentions are not known to us. I am rich and happy that i have lot of friends who respct and love me, more than you. Reframing that early time as something valuable makes you feel like your time is being used constructively, whether for your own or for someone else’s benefit. And just to show you how narcissistic i am i wont even bother to read your reply cuz i don't care. Now, unless a person who is habitually late considers their non-punctuality a virtue, and derives pleasure from that self-admiration, I would say they don't qualify as narcissistic. All the successful people I've ever known or worked with have an underlying humanity about them that includes caring about other people, and one way to express caring is not making other people wait on you. No excuse, just late. I never saidthat iiam chronically late. Finally, let us actually look at the definition of narcissism, as you desire a "rationale" response: "The pursuit of gratification from vain or egotistic admiration of one's own attributes." Updated on: 17 Apr 2019 by Akash Peshin. It would be interesting to hear what your sycophants say about you when you're not within earshot, though. Relevance. (That was in 2002; just think what a similar late arrival could cost today.) I might ARRIVE 15 minutes early and wait for the appointed time, but would NEVER intentionally impost on my hosts. If you don’t know why someone is late, please don’t assume you have all the answers. For the punctually challenged, this basic motivation drives behavior whether consciously or unconsciously. These people have problems. Controllers, they control nothing but upset and unhappiness, while under the illusion of "being on top" when they're problem creators rather than solvers, through performing nothing more than incessant whining. So, that's cool, I guess. I love myself and I do what i think makes me happy, and i am doing it for myself first then for others. And just because I can. Wanting to avoid being early, then, is a strong motivation for why many people are chronically late. It's hard for narcissists to grasp the idea of mutual respect. There nothing wrong with being narcissistic and be proud of who you are and what you do. Just stopped them from being 10-15 or more minutes late for every shift. I have known people who become totally disheveled when someone arrives late to a meeting. Being consistently late and making people wait on you is an indirect or passive-aggressive way of saying "I'm more important than you; my time is more valuable than yours.". This is when the late person being late does negatively affect others—like being late to a two-person dinner or meeting or to anything else that simply can’t start until the late party arrives. Some people apologize as a way of showing courtesy or to gain approval for how “nice” they are. After that they were at work just on time. What does it mean when someone says their "late" relative? Why don't guys text back right away? some people think that our thought process has no particular reason and can be completely random. Like you, I used to hate being late. It use to be extremely rude to be early--don't know when that changed. If those four well-paid employees arrived 15 minutes before Weill got to the meeting, that still would have cost the company $4,250 in wasted time. Have a few within family that have always been late for everything. If you happen to arrive five or ten minutes early, just sit in your car, think, read, pray, meditate, nap, use your phone, or listen to music. The solution to actually fixing the habit, then, is not to think about ways to be on time but rather to think about how to make being early valuable. Learn more at AdoreeDurayappah.com. I’m sure each CLIP is insane in his or her own special way. share | improve this question | follow | asked May 29 '12 at 20:22. esqew esqew. But there seems to be one common thread running through the behavior of chronically late individuals that may be the most universal reason for their perpetual tardiness—and yet it is consistently overlooked: People are late because they don’t want to be early. Whatever floats yer boat, buddy. I spent time fighting in Iraq as an Army infantryman we had no time nor quarter for people who were late. This makes me selfish? It’s Trying to Save Us. I was always early to work when I first started there like 6 years ago. I understand that as a narcissist, it's difficult for you to grasp the concept that your friends' time is just exactly as valuable as your own time: your time and their time are equal in value. Like many spoiled rich kids you have surrounded yourself with people who only tolerate your colossal ego and insulting rudeness toward them, because you're paying them to. Rude or selfish, perhaps, especially if they don't consider the feelings of others, although I don't know if that's the case with most people that are perpetually tardy. Secondly, I don't know that poster, HJ, or you, so I can't make any kind of sound judgment of their character. Everyone is late once in a while, and remember, compromise plays a vital role in any happy, successful, and long-lasting relationship. If you have married a narcissistic bully who demands that you arrive to all events either 45 minutes early (OR 45 minutes late, both of which are just plain rude and domineering/ controlling and narcissistic) then it's on YOU to put your foot down and reach a compromise with your bully of a husband, such as agreeing to be ten minutes early (or on time) from now on. As much as they may hurt others, they hurt themselves even more. Being five or ten minutes late isn't typically a big deal (unless it's to a movie or concert), but when people are regularly twenty or thirty minutes late it can really inconvenience others and becomes frustrating, making the person unpleasant to invite to things. How late? Really makes me wonder....you're the author of the text and you're pissed about these comments, which makes sense. Being five minutes late or leaving five minutes early can develop into a chronic issue that costs thousands of dollars a year even in the case of entry-level employees. I know lots of busy individuals who work and have kids of various ages, and a couple of these friends have special needs children, and yet somehow these friends are rarely if ever late, and on the rare occasions they are late they let the rest of us know (so as not to hold up the dinner or the departure or whatever) AND they apologize for being late. At the end of the day, if i don't make myself happy no one will. The Real Reason Why Some People Are Always Late To Work. Sometimes. She has problems. How Do We Perceive Beauty Without the Ability to See? Timeliness is simply a social contract, aka, a way for people to show mutual respect and caring for each other's valuable time. So this only leaves the unescapable conclusion that complaining about tardiness is a pretty extreme kind of narcissism. Read on to learn about them. Narcissists are loathe to acknowledge that *everyone's* time is important and valuable to them: just exactly as important and valuable as your own time is to you. You didn’t do what you were supposed to do, and now you’ll sit here and get more done, even if it makes you late.”. Group 2) Those who feel terrible about it and are filled with self-loathing. As if the universe revolves around them. But those who get a little thrill from engaging in passive-aggressive hostile behaviors like chronic tardiness, and even perhaps feel justified or entitled to their chronic tardiness, seem to lack that basic warmth of human kindness. Always Late? Here's the thing those people who are always on time don't understand: that's only important TO THEM. What do dreams about running late mean? Do not see them often, but they know not to be late when it is a planned gathering. In a matter of fact i am always on time, never late, but never early. And Anonymous A, you strike me as the most narcissistic person in this whole forum. You just take out the bag, throw some clothes in it, throw your toiletries in, zip it up, and done. It was really stressful. And thanks for providing examples of your passive-aggressive mind-set. Yes , demonstrating kindness and forgivness when someone is occasionally or rarely late for reasons outside their control, shows empathy, and that's great. Worked with a few as well. We have competitions, recitals, vocal performances, games, practices, homework, robotics, student leadership technology, school events, church and community events. * Arriving chronically extremely late to work or to meetings at work is just stupid because it will probably get you fired. Subscribe. When it comes to nightmares, some of them seem pretty nonsensical. Her reply was~of course, I cannot be late for school/work. You really are full of yourself. hide. It is a good thing we do not socialize with them much. But if you live in the city with 5mil people, and 2 mil cars, being late because of the traffic, train is packed, kinda normal thing. The psychology behind why some people are always late - National | Globalnews.ca Experts say being late all the time becomes a habit when you know … Feeling feisty huh, good for you :) It's better than not showing up at all, isn't it? Unlike you, I don't have that infantile need to assert narcissistic dominance by being deliberately (and passive-aggressively) late. In my head, it’s eternally a five-minute task. If for some reason we must start at 7:30, he shows up at 7:35. what would be some causes and what should we do with him? 203 1 1 gold badge 2 2 silver badges 6 6 bronze badges. It, finally, is enough to arrive on time!! We are no longer supporting IE (Internet Explorer), Optimistic People All Have One Thing in Common: They’re Always Late, Why You Might Need to Purposely Kill Your Grass, If You Laugh at These Dark Jokes, You’re Probably a Genius, A Body Language Expert Analyzes 13 Iconic Photos of Prince Charles and Princess Diana, Do Not Sell My Personal Information – CA Residents. Being responsive and caring about the needs of others has served me well over the years; I've had (still having) a long and satisfying career. Five minutes. Because people like me hate to be tardy, we are always on time. She was our Sunday School "teacher." It's nice to be appreciated. If you weren't asked to arrive early then arriving really early is not just rude: its creepy. Those with manners are never tardy and people with apparent poor time management need to get organised, repeat tardiness without a genuine reason is poor behaviour, and to blame it on the fear of not wanting to be early is pathetic! In a way that stress of not wanting to be late became a cost of being early; a cost that I didn't really want to incur as time went on. I could have not said it better ...glad you did! We’ve Got Depression All Wrong. And sad. I don’t know how ADHD has affected certain areas of my brain but this is one area that has been particularly frustrating over the years. And I’m not late because I like to smell the roses or because I can see the big picture or because the future is full of infinite possibilities. I have an irrational resistance to the transition. Then it's on YOU to put your foot down and reach a compromise with your bully of a husband, such as agreeing to be ten minutes early (or on time) from now on. These people are @#$%^&s. Another way is letting others know if you are being unavoidably detained so they can go ahead and eat or whatever, instead of becoming sick with worry wondering what happened to you. Then I agree with you. Being constantly late, time and time again, is just plain rude, it's saying 'my time is more important than yours', it's disrespectful, insulting and selfish. Nothing’s better than the headline “The Reason People Are [bad quality that describes you] Is Actually Because They’re [good quality].” I got to reading. There are no hard and fast rules for dealing with someone who is always late.Every manager is different, as is every employee and their personal situation. The worst person was a pastors wife who was 10-15 minutes late every Sunday morning. The bottom line for me is this: depending on the circumstances, I'll be early, on time, or late to a meeting. So, it sounds like you are owning your narcissism, good for you. This dream means you are not paying enough attention to someone, being too focused on yourself. With this in mind, though, there's one more solution that can help, which is to find a way to reduce the perceived costs of being early. 85% Upvoted. Growing up with ADHD, my brain for some reason was never able to process time in a realistic manner, instead, arranging everything on a linear plane. Most of the time, when someone is late, it doesn’t bother me. But chronic extreme lateness is different; its a repeating pattern of behavior that is specific to covert hostility: it's passive-aggressive, its a dominance behavior or a rebellious behavior, and it's a narcissistic behavior. have a good life. Come off it, this article just gives people permission to be rude. Nobody asked YOU to be rude to a mother of four, regardless of your opinion. Your comment gives off the air of being the epitome of rude, disrespectful, insulting, and selfish! The point, again, is that being on time is thoughtful, polite, and respectful of the needs and feelings of others, and being chronically extremely late or chronically extremely early is just weird, even rude (if it's a formal dinner or party event in someone's home) and rather passive-aggressive or covertly hostile. Demanding that someone be early can be just as rude. A reliable identifier of CLIPs is a bizarre compulsion to defeat themselves—some deep inner drive to inexplicably miss the beginning of movies, endure psychotic stress while running to catch the train, crush their own reputations at work, etc. Please read that post and tell me that person (who is apparently VERY punctual and VERY concerned when others are not) seems to "car(e) about their feelings" (your words to describe someone that is not a narcissist) or if that person seems "caring and empathetic" - again, your words to describe the opposite of narcissism. report. As for you making all this drama about nothing here, insulting everyone by that defensive attitude, just tell us a lot about your character and worth. But i didn't come in this world to satisfy other, and do what they want to do. But, honestly, who likes change? That signifies an inability to enjoy the moment.”. Within a couple of weeks she stopped teaching the class. I would say, "You can trust me, I won't let you down.". If you have married a narcissistic bully who demands that you arrive to all events either 45 minutes early OR 45 minutes late, (both of which are just plain rude and domineering/ controlling and narcissistic) A really common social issue people have is when one or more of their friends are flaky. May your every interaction be "not to your satisfaction" to the point you spontaneously combust and implode concurrently. I have to keep "the peace" because these people are in laws. I wait sometimes 20 minutes for someone and i never make drama about that. Are you asking what the threshold is between being called 'late' and not having to bother? Yawn. Punctuality is one of the crucial aspects of maximizing operational productivity in any industry. Every event I am expected to sit and wait 45 minutes! So I told her that being late EVERY Sunday was disrespectful to Jesus and the class. I always tell her good thing her eyes were crap and she couldn't join the Air Force to be a pilot. It might help to have a frank and honest discussion with the individual about their passive-aggressive way of showing their hostility towards you and clear the air. So....yeah. But wait … Late people are the worst. Ever heard of "fashionably late"? Wait But Why (July 7, 2015), Copyright © 2015 by Tim Urban, waitbutwhy.com. Wrok situation is different--though this person amkes a good point--arriving for a meeting 15 minutes early is just as wasteful as arriving late. These people who do manage to be on time are admiring their own exceptionality and at the same time attempting to place blame and a very heavy burden on others to adapt to a standard they know is impossible. Like a couple of minutes or very late? Okay, "Anonymous", I'll take the bait. Unlike you. Missed or late periods can happen for plenty of other reasons. We are no longer supporting IE (Internet Explorer) as we strive to provide site experiences for browsers that support new web standards and security practices. All this supposed paranoia of being early is very much centered around the feelings of the person arriving, with no consideration being taken for the host or teacher,etc. This dream often occurs when we force ourselves to do things, but somehow everything always turns bad. Mr.X. LMAO (sometimes, I'm there an hour or more early, lol). What does the amount of time someone takes to text you back mean? I don't need to prove anything to anyone. Find more ways to say late, along with related words, antonyms and example phrases at Thesaurus.com, the world's most trusted free thesaurus. Why Losing Weight May Be Harder for Night Owls, Are You Excellent at Running a Meeting? Why are so many people drawn to conspiracy theories in times of crisis? At least you're owning your narcissism. The late George Washington... idioms. Another word for late. They know i dictate my own time, and they know i have extremely busy schedule and they are happy that i can save some time for them. Now, the original person I responded to, HJ, seems to fit the description more than the people he despises. That was the beginning of the end for me at that church. You see this is your problem that you are guessing, you don't know the facts and you are causing and degrading other on your own beliefs, and that is what everyone else pointing out to you why they think you are selfish and narcissistic person. It irritates me that people like my husband who go ballistic if I'm not 45 minutes early to everything are considered conscientious, and people like me who plan to arrive 5 to 15 minutes early and am rarely late are the ones considered Narcissistic. It doesn't always mean that there is something wrong with you, although being ignored may make you feel that way. save. If you indicate the content of the post you disagree with (by quoting it) or if you address your comment to an individual poster, then whoever you're addressing can respond to your post. Then yes, i am selfish. The kids are adults now that are just like the parents. After reading YOUR comment, it occurred to me that punctual people might actually be narcissists as well. No matter how many times the CLIP has done a certain activity, what he or she remembers is that one time when things went the quickest. When it comes to people who are chronically not-OK late, I think there are two subgroups: Group 1) Those who don’t feel bad about it. Doesn't matter the time nor the occasion. When I’m pleased with how I’ve lived the day so far, the Rational Decision Maker in me has a much easier time taking control of the wheel. 1 decade ago. An article in USA Today discussed the cost of tardiness for CEOs. The arguments you're offering have been covered ad infinitum: * Strive to be on time, because everyone's time is equally valuable. Who knows. But RE minor spelling, grammar or punctuation errors... Meh. On our discussion boards, a member named killerman has run into a situation where girls are changing date times last minute, or otherwise being late for a date. Those are great examples of childishly immature (and cowardly) passive-aggressive, narcissistic behaviors. 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